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This chat was held in the America On Line Chatroom "Field of Dreams" on April 19, 2005, exclusively for the members of the America On Line Community's WRITING RIGHT members. Elizabeth Delisi, a professional author, is one of the Hosts.
OnlineHost: *** You are in "Field of Dreams". ***
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: I'm sure glad you could make it today.So without any further delay...let's get started!Our guest today is Margaret Carter, author of EMBRACING
DARKNESS, who will talk about "Writing a Vampire Novel."
MLCVamp: I work in proofreading for the Maryland General Assembly. The
legislative session just ended, so we are entitled to down time.
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: We're in protocol now. Margaret, tell us a little about yourself and your books, and give us your website URL--and then you can launch into your talk.
MLCVamp: www.margaretlcarter.com Our third son redesigned it a few months ago. I love the way it
looks. My most recent novel is EMBRACING DARKNESS, a vampire romance
published by Silhouette Intimate Moments last month. It's still available for
order online. I also have vampire novels from Amber Quill (www.amberquill.com),
the Hard Shell Word Factory (www.hardshell.com), and Ellora's Cave
(www.ellorascave.com) The ones from EC are novellas, and they specialize in erotic
romance. Except for a couple of anomalous short stories, all my vampires
belong to another species that shares Earth with us, not supernatural. They feed on emotions as well as blood, so their feeding is usually very erotic.
HOST WPLC Race: By feeding on emotions do you mean like a psychic vampire?
MLCVamp: Yes. They get nourishment from animal blood, but they need small
amounts of human blood regularly, for the psychic nourishment. They also
drink milk (taken from actual vampire folklore of drying up cows, etc.)
ClayWrite: Your website says your vampires are not supernatural but are
another species sharing earth with us. Do you delve into sci-fi with this?
MLCVamp: IMO, this approach to vampires is SF by definition, because there
is an attempted scientific explanation (though I am an English major, not a
biology major, so don't delve too deeply into my rationales.) Suzy McKee Charnas' THE VAMPIRE TAPESTRY is the best example of this approach, the vampire as ultimate predator at the top of the food chain. See also FEVRE DREAM by George R. R. Martin, the Austra series by
Elaine Bergstrom, and of course Christine Feehan. Susan Sizemore also has a series along this line, I BURN FOR YOU, I THIRST FOR YOU, and I HUNGER FOR YOU. Very good books!
MLCVamp: I have a nonfiction book from AQ on this theme, DIFFERENT BLOOD:
THE VAMPIRE AS ALIEN, tracing other-species vampires in fiction from the
mid-1800s to the 1990s.There's also a paperback anthology of SF vampire fiction, TOMORROW
SUCKS (Baen Books), still available, which includes a story by my husband,
"Vanishing Breed," that inspired my series.
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: So, are your vampires a species that developed on earth,
or are they from another planet?
MLCVamp: Well....in my husband's story, they originally came from another
planet, about 10,000 years ago.However, all but the very oldest members of the race believe they
evolved on Earth, because the elders want them to blend in, so they conceal
the truth from all the younger generations. Therefore, I never have to mention the extraterrestrial origin in
my own books, which evades the issue (never addressed head-on by Elaine Bergstrom, for instance) of how ET vampires can interbreed with Earthwomen.
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: Thanks, Margaret. Very interesting.
ClayWrite: Some years ago I read an article about vampires.... the idea was they were an alien species who could not tolerate our environment that well...
MLCVamp: Well, actually, it's almost unknown for a male vampire to impregnate a human female -- needs medical help. Female vampires can, rarely, get naturally pregnant by human men.
ClayWrite: and that's why they avoided sunlight...and drank blood because blood was about the only earth-food they could use.
ClayWrite: more... btw, it was written as a non-fic but speculative article
MLCVamp: Neat theory, Clay! My vampires, like Dracula (and the other classic
19th-century vampires) can be active in daylight. It just makes them very
uncomfortable and limits their powers. Wish that article were available. Where was it?
ClayWrite: it was years and years ago in one of the "mens adventure mags" True, Argosy, or Saga
HOST WPLC Race: Welcome to Writing Right! Maragaret Carter, author of
EMBRACING DARKNESS, speaks about "Writing a Vampire Novel". We are in
protocol.
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: Any more questions for our guest before we continue?
ClayWrite: What is the general location of your stories? or do these change?
MLCVamp: In the U.S., because that's the locale I'm familiar with, and usually present day.
I have a couple of stories set in the 1890s in my collection HEART'S DESIRES AND DARK EMBRACES (AQ). My Hard Shell novels, DARK CHANGELING and CHILD OF TWILIGHT, take
place in 1979 and the early 1990s, respectively.
ClayWrite: Does working with the Maryland General Assembly give you ideas
for blood-sucking vampires? (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: LOL!
MLCVamp: LOL! Actually, I have a tangentially related werewolf novel whose
heroine is a proofreader in the same office I work in. Her psychiatrist, who helps her discover the truth about her werewolf heritage, is the heroine of DARK CHANGELING. As for locales, I do have a novella called "Payer of Tribute" which is a vampire "Beauty and the Beast" adaptation set in 11th-century England.But it's not available. It was published decades ago by a fan press and is supposed to be
in GOOD GUYS WEAR FANGS 4 *if* that zine ever gets printed.
ClayWrite: Does your co-worker know she's a template for your heroine?
MLCVamp: Oh, I wasn't clear. The werewolf isn't based on any particular
person. I just gave her my job and local setting.
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: Margaret, can you tell us a little about how we would go
about writing a vampire novel? I.e., do we need to do lots of research first? Do we need to come up with a "world" for our vampires? Etc. What do YOU do?
MLCVamp: I think it would help to do some research, mainly to learn what aspects of vampire fiction are based in folklore and which have been invented by individual authors.
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: We're talking with Margaret Carter about
vampire novels, and we're in protocol.
MLCVamp: E.g., someone whose main knowledge of vampires comes from the
role-playing game "Vampire: The Masquerade" or Anne Rice's novels should read
more widely before creating her own vampires... or else hers will probably turn as recognizable imitations of one of those sources. Chelsea Quinn Yarbro has spoken of how she turned the historical
character Count Saint-Germain into a vampire. She researched vampire folklore
from all over the world....and made a chart of which traits appeared universally or very
frequently. Those were the ones she used (if they fit her vision, of course).
MLCVamp: You don't have to be THAT systematic.
MLCVamp: I considered each of the best-known vampire traits and tried to
come up with plausible biological explanations for them. The psychic powers
(such as hypnotic mind control and projecting illusions) would probably be
considered......fantasy by hard SF readers. However, Marion Zimmer Bradley's
Darkover uses psychic powers, and it's classified as SF. I am always on the lookout for phenomena in the animal world that are analogous to vampire powers. The Animal Planet show "The Most Extreme"
includes some amazing examples of weird animal powers.
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: I guess it's not a good idea, then, to get all your
knowledge from watching "Dark Shadows" as a kid. :-D
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: Do you recommend any particular research books? i.e., do
you have any favorites?
MLCVamp: Then your vampire would look recognizably like Barnabas.:-)
MLCVamp: Rosemary Guiley recently published an encyclopedia of vampires,
werewolves, etc., can't remember the exact title.One very comprehensive guide is J. Gordon Melton's huge
encyclopedia THE VAMPIRE BOOK. I even have an entry in it.:-)
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: Thanks, Margaret!
ClayWrite: Does Guiley give sources for her info? (follow up) you need to know the source so you don't plagiarize
MLCVamp: OK, I went to get my copy. It's called VAMPIRES, WEREWOLVES, AND
OTHER MONSTERS. She has an index and a long bibliography. Also, many of the entries
include a "further reading" list. I haven't had time to read it yet, but it looks like a very good
reference. She edited an earlier book about vampires in pop culture years
ago.Don't know whether it's still in print -- good old Amazon will tell
you.
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: Sounds like two great references. Thanks! Any more questions for our guest?
RCS1738: I apologize for being late. Have you tried to create a new monster
or mythical creature? If so, what attributes must it have to be of interest to the
reading public?
MLCVamp: I have thought about it but never managed to come up with one. To
do that and make it "stick" (i.e, get adopted by popular culture) takes
genius. E.g., H. P. Lovecraft and J.R.R. Tolkien accomplished it.
Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos became a template for many other authors. And
Tolkien of course needs no introduction.
RCS1738: I'd think it must be able to stalk, and be charismatic and
need something from a human to survive. Thank you.
MLCVamp: I think a "new" mythical creature would have to share some of the
familiar traits of monsters that are already archetypes. Like the traits you
mentioned, RCS. Although I'm fond of werewolves, for instance, I think vampires
have inspired more wide variations in fiction because they are so adaptable
and variable -- and "charismatic."
RCS1738: And "Human"
MLCVamp: Werewolves have not generally been viewed as seductive, only
frightening, although that's changing with the many recent werewolf romances,
and of course Angela Carter's "In the Company of Wolves"...which celebrates the allure of the wild. Yes, I think it helps if a monster has a human dimension. Otherwise they are just something to
destroy.
ClayWrite: Do you have specific traits in your stories which you carry forth from one work into the next?
MLCVamp: Since all my vampires belong to the same species, they share the
same powers, needs, and limitations. Could you clarify the question?
ClayWrite: traits that are unique your work and not other writers
MLCVamp: Are you asking what some of their traits are? Oh, I see. Many of my vampire traits are based on other fiction sources, though mine aren't exactly like any one other writer's. The psychic power of disguising his/her appearance or becoming "invisible" by projecting an illusion is one I haven't seen much elsewhere, but I know it's not original with me.
MLCVamp: OK, one that I think is unique, which I was "stuck" with from my
husband's original story: His vampires could sprout wings. So I decided this was one of their
innate psychic powers -- to take on a winged shape that's stored in the DNA from their remote semi-humanoid ancestors.
MLCVamp: Since a human-size creature is too heavy to fly like a bird, they
don't literally fly; they levitate and then glide. Like a psychically-powered hang glider. By using their illusionability, they can make their transformed shape look (to human observers) more
monstrous than it actually is.
MLCVamp: Their wings are very sensitive, because the molecules are in flux.
An erogenous zone and also an easy place to cause pain.I haven't seen this particular feature in any other fictional vampires. Roger in DARK CHANGELING, BTW, is a hybrid, so he can't change
shape.!
MLCVamp: One thing I wanted to mention about creating vampires before I
forget: The sympathetic ("good") vampire, to me, falls into 2 categories,
ethically: Vampirism itself is evil, and a "good" vampire is one who overcomes
his "curse" to behave morally (or even be "cured," which I dislike). The other type: Vampirism is morally neutral; a vampire can be good or evil in the same way as any person. My vampires fall into this category,
like Elrod's and Bergstrom's.
ClayWrite: A few observations that will take more than one line, so bear with me, please... Your comment of your husband's vampires coming to earth 10,000 years ago...there has been quite a bit of discussion and research that an advanced civilization was on earth... 10,500 years before present
perhaps you've heard of this it might make a good premise for vampires storiesbased upon what some paleontologists think is fact
MLCVamp: Cool! Like Von Daniken and the other "ancient astronauts"
advocates?
ClayWrite: yes follow up
MLCVamp: Wouldn't fit in with our theory, though, because our vampires
didn't use their advanced technology to change Earth in any way.
ClayWrite: this is based on alignments of ancient structures matching star
alignments of 10,500 years ago
MLCVamp: They hid the starship where it would never be found, probably with
detection-blocking equipment (maybe in the Bermuda Triangle?:-) and ...
HOST WPLC Race: suggestion-- Clay and Margaret come and discuss this further
for us :-)
ClayWrite: and the Sphinx now being thought of as being much older than said
by Egyptologists
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: I hate to say it...but our time is up. Thank you so much,
Margaret, for being our guest today.
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: We would LOVE to have you back again, any time you can
sneak away from work.
MLCVamp: ... made sure even their own children didn't know about it. Elaine
Bergstrom's novels tell a little about how her vampires...
HOST WPLC Race: I am really enjoying hearing their discussion on this.
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: Please give us your URL again, so we can check out your
books.
Satin Puzzle: Excellent, Margret....thank you
Satin Puzzle: Thank you, Liz and Race
RCS1738: Thank you for an informative session.
MLCVamp: ....came to Earth, but they concealed themselves, too. Still it
WOULD make a great story premise.
HOST WPLC Race: thank you ... this has been excellent fun!! applause
applause
ClayWrite: Margaret, thanks for the chat.
MLCVamp: www.margaretlcarter.com (that's an L in the middle)
ClayWrite: Liz, Race, thanks for hosting.
HOST WPLC Race: Thanks Clay for sharing, too.
MLCVamp: You're welcome, and thanks to all for being here! This has been
great fun.
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: It's been great fun. Thank you, Margaret!
ClayWrite: this has been a great session.
HOST WPLC Race: this has been great!
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: Hope to see you all back here next week....
HOST WPLC Race: See you all next week
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: first, at 11 a.m. for Race's "Realities of the Paranormal"
chat, and then at noon for Writing Right.
HOST WPLC Race: I'll be here at 11 and Liz at noon
MLCVamp: Hasta la Bye-Bye as they say on FOREVER KNIGHT. :-)
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: Have a great week. See you next Tuesday!
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: LOL!
Satin Puzzle: I loved Forever Knight...
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: See you later. Bye!
Satin Puzzle: Now she got my brain working..dang it.
Satin Puzzle: Bye Liz
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: LOL! That's good, Satin!
HOST WPLC MmeLiz: Bye.
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