AUDIENCE MEMBER:  “That’s what I’m saying . . . it was too subtle for all these people, making fantastic salaries as reviewers, to get it.”

JEAN:  “I don’t think there’s a reviewer anywhere making a ‘fantastic salary’ . . .”

WINSTON:  “I didn’t go into the theatre caring what any reviewer had said, because most of them are mundanes anyway.  Most of them wouldn’t even be able to tell you what STAR TREK episodes the film came from.”

AUDIENCE MEMBER:  “. . .  They knew that no matter what they said, everybody was going to go see it, we would continue to watch the episodes, we were going to buy some of the books — even the awful ones — and we were going to write our own reviews, and they wouldn’t do anything about it . . .”

WINSTON:  “Also, they did not get a press preview, correct?  They had to go on opening night and pour their way through the crowds of little kids in order to sit in a theatre and do their review . . .”

PAT:  “Oh, they were mad about that . . .”

WINSTON.  “Yeah, they were really angry about that . . . The reason was that time was against the producers.  I still have this fantasy about myself running Paramount, looking at the film and saying, ‘No, that’s wrong!  Go back and do that over!’”

AUDIENCE MEMBER#5:  “But they did get a press preview of ‘The Empire Strikes Back’, and that reviewer for New York Magazine called it a lot of bad names . . .”

WINSTON:  “That was probably John Simon, who was the only one who gave a truly negative review of ‘Star Wars’, for which Harlan Ellison will love him for the rest of his life . . . But I think we’re getting off the track when we start talking about reviews.  We’re supposed to be talking about universes . . .”

AUDIENCE MEMBER.  “What we need is a universe all made up reviewers who attack each other!”  (Laughter and applause)

WINSTON:  “Let’s get into the realm of reality and the mundane.  I created the Stunrod Series, which is a satire on STAR TREK Fandom.  It got started because I was a Helper at the first convention, in New York in ‘72.  I was one of Gene Roddenberry’s bodyguards, and had the horrible moment of trying to get Gene through . . .”